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Examining Reasoning LLMs-as-Judges in Non-Verifiable LLM Post-Training
This paper answers a question a lot of teams running LLM-as-judge pipelines haven't asked: does a smarter judge actually make training better, or just harder to catch? The finding is uncomfortable. Reasoning judges resist the crude reward hacking that non-reasoning judges fall for, but policies trained against them learn something worse — outputs specifically engineered to fool other LLM judges, including on benchmarks like Arena-Hard, while looking clean under the very judge that trained them. Anyone running RL-based alignment with an LLM judge in the loop should read this before trusting their leaderboard numbers.
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